Roth IRA - Conversions
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Does Joey qualify for a Roth IRA, by using the already rolled over distribution from
the old 401K?
Yes you qualify
What is the tax due on the conversion of the roll over IRA to the roth IRA?
Approximately $3800
Do you have the money to pay the tax?
Yes - see the attached sheet. If your 2000 payroll withholding, income and
deductions are about the same for 2000, then the withholding should cover the tax due on
the conversion.
Is it financially profitable to make the conversion? Yes
I have computed 9% annual earnings, compounded monthly for two
scenarios. One scenario is to retain the traditional IRA, pay no tax now and pay tax
when the funds are withdrawn. The second scenario is to convert to a Roth IRA now,
pay the taxes now and invest the net after tax into the Roth IRA (the same circumstance as
if you convert the 100% balance of the Roth, and use money from your paychecks to pay the
tax. This money could still be earning interest and therefore you have lost the
opportunity to invest the money because of the tax on the conversion). Both
scenarios were initially set at a seven (7) year time period to find the result of the
principal, earnings and taxes on the Traditional IRA paid upon drawing and the taxes paid
on the Roth IRA "up front". Using the assumptions listed above the
following results were obtained:
The After tax Roth IRA at the end of 7 years $17,795
The After tax Traditional IRA at the end of 7 years $17,938.
After the initial 7 year period, the Roth IRA will continue to produce financial
advantages as there will be no tax on the drawing of the Roth earnings and the continued
accumulations of Traditional IRA earnings will produce ever more greater taxes.
Qualifying for the conversion of a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA: - Yes you qualify - see the next paragraph
FIRST TWO CONDITIONS MUST BE MET:
1 - modified AGI does not exceed $100,000 for a taxable year
2 - a qualified rollover contribution generally means a rollover contribution to a Roth
IRA from an individual retirement plan, but only if such rollover contribution satisfies
the requirements for a rollover contribution, as defined in Code Section 408(d)(3) [The
ordinary and traditional roll over rules - e.g. the 60 day time period, etc.]
THEN ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUST BE SATISFIED:
1 - a r/o from a traditional IRA if it is within 60 days of the distribution from the
traditional IRA
2 - Trustee to Trustee transfer from a traditional IRA
3 - Transferred to a Roth if both the traditional and the Roth are maintained by the same
trustee
The decision as to whether a Roth IRA conversion should be made should be based on three factors:
(1) Is the taxpayer eligible for the conversion.
(2) Do the benefits outweigh the costs.
(3) Will the tax liability arising from the conversion be so large that it becomes impractical for the taxpayer to make the conversion.
(1) Is the taxpayer eligible for the conversion:
Resolving the first issue is straightforward: a taxpayer is eligible if he or she has
adjusted gross income of less than $100,000, and, if married, files a joint return, as
discussed above.
The most important factor in terms of the cost is the IRA owner's tax bracket at the time of the conversion compared to the IRA owner's tax bracket at the time he expects to take distributions, since in making a conversion, an IRA owner is choosing between current taxation on the existing balance of the IRA if the conversion is made, and taxation at the time of distribution, if the IRA remains a traditional IRA. Thus, if an individual with a traditional IRA plans to take distributions from the IRA during retirement, and if the individual expects to be in a substantially lower tax bracket at that time, the individual should probably continue with the traditional IRA. For example, if an individual is currently in the 28 percent (or higher) tax bracket, and if the individual expects to be in the 15-percent tax bracket during retirement, a conversion does not make sense because the tax rate that will be imposed on the conversion amount will be higher than the tax rate that will be imposed on withdrawals made from the traditional IRA. However, the length of time and the expected rate of return on the IRA also enter into the equation, since the tax at the time of conversion will apply only to the balance at that time, while the tax on distribution if the IRA is not converted will apply to a much greater amount, including all earnings accrued after the time the conversion would have occurred.
(3) ABILITY TO PAY TAX
Even a taxpayer for whom the benefits outweigh the costs will not want to make an IRA
conversion if the tax liability resulting from the conversion will be so large that the
taxpayer cannot pay it. Thus, an important factor in making a conversion decision is
whether a taxpayer has the necessary funds to pay the tax liability. And these funds must
be held outside the IRA, since if the taxpayer must use cash from inside the IRA to pay
the tax owed, the cash used to pay the tax will be treated as a withdrawal and will be
subject to the 10 percent penalty tax if the taxpayer is not yet age 59 1/2. <4> In
addition, there will be less funds working in the IRA for the taxpayer, so the benefit of
the conversion will be lessened.
A taxpayer who does not have the funds necessary to pay the tax liability but who can benefit from a conversion should consider converting part of the traditional IRA to a Roth IRA each year over a number of years. This technique has the effect of spreading out the taxpayers tax liability over a time period selected by the taxpayer.
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Does Joey qualify for a Roth IRA, by using the already rolled over distribution from
the old 401K?
Yes you qualify
What is the tax due on the conversion of the roll over IRA to the roth IRA?
Approximately $3800
Do you have the money to pay the tax?
Yes - see the attached sheet. If your 2000 payroll withholding, income and
deductions are about the same for 2000, then the withholding should cover the tax due on
the conversion.
Is it financially profitable to make the conversion? Yes
I have computed 9% annual earnings, compounded monthly for two
scenarios. One scenario is to retain the traditional IRA, pay no tax now and pay tax
when the funds are withdrawn. The second scenario is to convert to a Roth IRA now,
pay the taxes now and invest the net after tax into the Roth IRA (the same circumstance as
if you convert the 100% balance of the Roth, and use money from your paychecks to pay the
tax. This money could still be earning interest and therefore you have lost the
opportunity to invest the money because of the tax on the conversion). Both
scenarios were initially set at a seven (7) year time period to find the result of the
principal, earnings and taxes on the Traditional IRA paid upon drawing and the taxes paid
on the Roth IRA "up front". Using the assumptions listed above the
following results were obtained:
The After tax Roth IRA at the end of 7 years $17,795
The After tax Traditional IRA at the end of 7 years $17,938.
After the initial 7 year period, the Roth IRA will continue to produce financial
advantages as there will be no tax on the drawing of the Roth earnings and the continued
accumulations of Traditional IRA earnings will produce ever more greater taxes.
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